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2 Sept 2018

Ah, the CofE bit, not my choice, it just happened to be near RAF South Cerney so that's where RAF Brats went regardless of creed, colour, rank or any other of the issues we face today!

John Eustace (M59-62)

         

          

4 Sept 2018

Yes Sebrof it,has been too long since I posted but, you know me, 'Blessed is the man who, when he has nothing to say, keeps his mouth shut'. Followed the London grass debate though but I was pretty sure that it was just another of John's attempts to provoke responses and it worked. Talking of grass I had to cut mine yesterday after many months of watching it getting more brown - just thought I'd mention it.
I have been wondering though whether Malcolm has got the camper van going and whether it is now a shade of drab green. Whoops back to VW again. Sorry. But it could be worse as I could start setting sums questions again.
Now was that worth waiting for Sebrof? And it's still early in the month!!

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

       
 

     

5 Sept 2018

Hello all, Just joining my nick name was "hutch"there is a couple of names that came to mind Gerry Bird,Dave Seales we shared dorms and Pat Catchpole we where based at the same camp,if anyone remembers me get back I'm living in Perth Western Australia  

Robert Hutchinson (M66-69)

        

                  

5 Sept 2018

Hi Ffoeg, Great to see your post - was getting worried about you!!!

Does the lack of precipitation mean you have had less weeds to deal with?  Ours are healthy and growing rampantly as usual!!!

The VW topic is good - the UP! model was awarded 'best buy' in Which? Magazine.  Is yours a hybrid, lecy or a petrol bad boy?
And yes it would be good to here how Malcolm is getting on with his?

I struggle to put Malcolm and not 'the wee Malkie' - do you think Malcolm has dished out many Glesga kisses? LOL Sebrof

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

       

        

6 Sept 2018

Does anyone have long lasting memories of the food at Windsor, either good or bad?
I remember that cheese soup at lunch was not relished by everyone. Geoff

Geoffrey McPate (S53-57)

       

            

6 Sept 2018

Hi Geoff McP, Cheese soup sounds disgusting!

I remember the concoction they called Farmers Breakfast which I hated.  The same dish was served at supper time under an alternative title YUK!!
One of my favourites was rice pudding with sultanas in it - not popular at our table.  Sue Dawson and I regularly split the the eight portions between us and ate the lot!!! I would not thank you for it now and I would be 20 stone if I did
You had to be in first at tea time or the goodies were away any you got left with the not so good!!!!
Never understood kids that ate cheese and jam on then same sandwich?

The worst meal times were at Matrons table because it was put on your plate and you were expected to eat it - like it or not!!!!!

On then whole food was passable but nothing to get excited about.
My parents sent me a tuck parcel every week to ensure I did not starve and I was always given a secret stash of pocket money for emergencies - if my father had known that was my fag money I would have got nothing extra!!!

Miss Bridges the Domestic Science teacher did a good job of getting me interested in cooking and I studied Catering at College for 3 years when I left school - a very handy skill to have if you feel like a change of jobs or need extra cash.

Happy munching. LOL iZZZZZi

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

           

        

7 Sept 2018

Hi Hutch,
I remember you. We shared a dorm with Gerry Bird, Titch Towle, Winker Watson, and Ian Riley. Rob Seales and Steve Winning, other names from our era, are around on social media.

Tony Higgin (M68-69)

          

      

7 Sept 2018

Oh, to be accused of 'stirring' or whatever. But yes, debate is healthy. I love YouTube and the ability to watch Stephen Colbert destroy Trump night after night. Having spent many years in the U.S. I grieve for the people, but then if you'd ever been to West Virginia you'd understand, there are people there, who have two heads, neither of which has a brain.
Just returned from Portugal, my advice? Go whilst it remains affordable.
Happy week-end all John

John Eustace (M59-62)

      

      

8 Sept 2018

1) Gaffers Omelette, RASC Supps sausages, kippers, Welsh Rarebit smothered with golden syrup!
2) The VW is running and road legal (just). King pin bushes need sorting. Fuel gauge is erratic. Petrol and air cooled. Paint scheme is likely to be orange over cream, yuck!
3)Portugal? Great place, lovely people and interesting music.
4) Only delivered one wee Malkie in my life. Protecting a girl in a pub, 1968. Don't know who came off worst, him with a broken nose or me with a blinding headache which lasted for days - NOT the proudest moment of my life, I assure you! Don't do it kiddies unless it's an absolute last resort.

Malcolm Graham (E60-65)

       

     

8 Sept 2018

Thank you Tony for getting back to me the names you mentioned are clicking straight away,but there again we are getting older and the beers are flowing when I looked at the membership a lots of people names and it was not open anymore so I am glad that my note went on its 0350 we had a great win at the footy (AFL)and this is not the finals I will get back to you thank you for replying - Hutch

Robert Hutchinson (M66-69)

      

       

9 Sept 2018

Reading the WGS 'food' related stories by Ms Forbes. We had house birthday parties at WGS and Mr Bert Dunn, our catering officer created splendid spreads on these occasions. My late wife and I were attending the Marlborough House 'Tea Party' and upon each table were centre pieces of plastic flowers and lighted candles . An accident occurred and suddenly one centre piece errupted into flames !! I moved swiftly and grabbed a jug of the' lemon fizz' drink which was made from crystals of some sort. I poured this over the flames and what a surprise !! Just as one might throw sugar upon a fire......the 'lemon fizz' acted like petroleum and caused an even greater blaze ! It all ended well but girls were forever curious thereafter about the properties of Mr Dunn's 'lemon fizz'. 

Colin Hawthorne (M74-79)

      

     

10 Sept 2018

There was no TV in my time at Windsor. The House had a large & heavy radio mounted on a trolley which we pushed around. One of the privileges of being a prefect was having the radio in our small dorm. and listening to music on BFN on a Sunday after lights out.

Geoffrey McPate (S53-57)

         

      

11 Sept 2018

Colin, I too remember the "tea party" episode. I didn't witness it but I certainly remember hearing all about it; by all accounts it was like a wonderful indoor firework display!
iZZZy, I didn't arrive at WGS Home Economics department in time to meet you(I think I would have enjoyed your personality) but I taught with Di Bridges. I'm so pleased that you found your "Domestic Science" training useful. Looking back on this site I remember others saying how they still cook/bake things they learnt back then.
Do any of you remember the tremendous production lines we had leading up to the annual Christmas Fair? All normal H.E. Lessons stopped and we all made cakes, fudge, coconut ice etc ready for selling. Happy days.

Rae Mitchell (nee Cleverly) (M77-81)

       

     

11 Sept 2018

The school inspectors in 1978 at WGS wrote "The quality, preparation and presentation of the food is outstanding".  In their concurrent report on WBS they said the food was a matter of concern as boys had seen the food at WGS and the difference was causing unrest!!!  The WBS food was called "indifferent".   
By the way for those of you who use the "other place" I have posted lists of teachers of the Windsor School 53-59 and WBS 59-81.  I'm working on lists for WGS (far more as teachers got married) and the final two years.  Any comments on houses/subjects and missing teachers welcomed. For those not on Mr Zuckerbergs magic money machine I can send by email

Steve Green (C66-69)

      

         

11 Sept 2018

Ah, DomSci!  I had a brief encounter with it in third year, as they wanted to give us a taste of every subject in order to help us choose our O level subjects.  But I do still remember some stuff.  "SHORT" for shortcrust pastry included sieve flour, hands cool and oven hot.  Not sure about the rest - possibly something with "rub"?  We had one and a half terms - I learned how to make rarebit, cheese pie (I still make that!), fish pie, mixed grill, and trifle (I make that, still, too!)  As for food which I enjoyed at school - I'm afraid I enjoyed far too much (sigh).  Fish and chips on Fridays - going up for seconds and thirds.  Unlike iZZZZi, I liked farmer's breakfast.  Also the cream cakes - topped with chocolate.  We hoped that there would be members of our table who wouldn't show up at tea time when they were on the menu!  On the other hand, when it was "rice and jelly mould", the dish would often get sent back with the rice bit untouched but the jelly dished out!
 and eaten.

Another comment on the food front- many of us had German mothers, so when apple sauce (Apfelmus) was on the menu with pork, we would save it and have it with custard as part of our dessert instead.

On the entertainment front - when the Queen came to Germany (mid 60s), the school provided one TV per block, and we were allowed to watch the local news (the Queen visiting Werl, etc) - a group of us actually went to Werl to watch the Queen visiting the Canadians there - most put out that nobody had thought to send her to the Windsor Schools for a visit!  But once she had returned to the UK, the TVs went as well.  But we were allowed transistor radios in our dorms by the time I was there, and record players, but only at certain times of the week.  Dorm mates with record players were popular!  We listened to the same records over and over again.

I am off to Europe at the end of the month - I will be staying in Soest and Dortmund, but not intending to visit Hamm - I went there two years ago, I can't think it will have changed much.  I went to Soest in 1964 with Third Year Camp.  They released us 14 year old girls in groups (and in civvies!) to explore, with a list of things to find.  Our group bumped into a Canadian lad within minutes, he obligingly found all our "targets" for us.  Dortmund, of course, is where the German side of my family came from, and where we would go on Visiting Weekends.

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

      

    

11 Sept 2018

Trying to contact Pearl White as was. Was at WGS from about 1963. Before that at Kings School Gutersloe.

Richard Sant (E62-64)

      

    

12 Sept 2018

November 17 marks the 65th anniversary of the opening of the Windsor Schools in Hamm. Edda Haick was the first pupil to go through the gates. 89 more pupils arrived for a short term. As Andrea Kaczmarek has pointed out there is an exhibition in the city Archives about BAOR in Westfalen as well as the Schools. Is there anyone interested in a return visit this November

Steve Green (C66-69)

    

     

12 Sept 2018

Pamela....shortcrust pastry; it was "Rub in until like fine breadcrumbs!" Good to know you still make some of those things you were taught and such a shame that youngsters don't seem to get taught these things now.
iZZZZi, was "Miss" Anne Sutton teaching H.E. when you were at WGS? Anyone any idea where she is now? Colin, I wonder if you know?

Rae Mitchell(nee Cleverly) (M77-81)

       

    

12 Sept 2018

Yes, Rae Cleverly (that was !) You have an excellent memory of the WGS events of days past.The notorious 'jungle juice' made from some sugar type crystals was a common feature at lunch and dinner tables during my '74-'79 sojourn at Hamm. It was even included as an essential food item to be packed  with us on our journey to the  BFES/SCEA SKI HUT down in Bavaria. I drove the WGS minibus down to Bavaria on two occasions with girls and Geography staff, I believe that I might have partaken of some other brew during these educational visits. I knew Diane Bridges well and she once came to my house at No:1 Am Huckenholz to cook 'Welsh Lamb'...in honey !!

Colin Hawthorne (M74-79)

       

     

13 Sept 2018

Great to see this flurry of posts from the Distaff side. Hope that doesn't sound too condescending but I did have a lot to do with WGS via Hockey, D of E, Rambling Club and the many young ladies that I taught in the WBS Maths Block at O and A level. So maybe I can be forgiven.
Yes Jungle Juice was powerful stuff - the lemon version certainly cleaned out the mouth and didn't do a lot of good to the interior of the WD tin that it came in either but everybody seemed to like it. It was an important part of the Compo Rations which we took on D of E camps. Steve's report of the inspectors' comments backs up my experience. WBS food was good but the lads were envious of the quality of the WGS food during Mr Dunn's time and he really enjoyed his job and seemed to be able to take school catering to a different level.
So there you go Sebrof not even half way through the month and a second post from me!

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

        

     

14 Sept 2018

Have tried several times to post a message but not successful. Not sure if I'm persona non grata or my machine is on the blink!
Steve Green posted on Facebook details of Hamm anniversary on17 November this year. Paul Sayers and I (Marlborough) are making the journey so would be great if there are any 'boys or girls' from the mid to late 60's going. 
Sorry to hear of Jeff Andrews death, Jacks Union kept us in touch with the U.K. music scene when we were so far away. Ted Brown used to help with their kit set up, does anyone know his whereabouts? I thought that he stayed in Germany after leaving school.

Dave Hodgson (M63-68)

      

     

16 Sept 2018

Regards to young MCPATE. The food at Windsor was ok in the main, I remember egg,bacon andpotato pie being very welcome on a cold wintres day. I was a house prefect ,and head of my table for meals. I had a bad run in with Mrs Muir one evening,when she was on duty.I hated SAGO ,as did everyone on my table.Mrs Muir said I should insist that I made everyone eat it. I refused,on the basis that I would be sick there and then if I ate it, which I wouldnt be doing , and I therfore wouldnt be forceing anyone else to eat it.Needless to say, I was reported toMr Benfield ,who said he wouldnt eat it either , and to go away.HAPPY DAYS

Tiny Latham (B54-57)

       

      

17 Sept 2018

WBS meals! I happily remember a boy called Dave Bromley who sat at the head of table and insisted all and anything left on a plate went up the table to him and his cohort. It was a very easy way to avoid the food. I left school weighing in (or out!) at 8 stone in old money compared to, dare I say, 16 today. Thanks Dave wherever you are!

John Eustace (M59-62)

          

     

17 Sept 2018

Looking for any one how remembers me

Bert Yorke (M53-56)

       

    

17 Sept 2018

Yes Colin, I have very many memories of WGS. My years there were the best of my teaching days! I was cheated out of a trip to Bavaria ( must have been the Geography trip) due to an unseasonably early fall of snow in the first week of November. Pauline Brown deemed it "too risky to travel".
Also Colin, do you remember the annual School Birthday show? Staff performed one year and then the prefects the next. I remember a good variety of beverages being consumed backstage!
Di was good company, both in the H.E. Dept. and when a few of us spent half term in Willingen. I remember us walking through deep snow....well, knee deep for us but for poor Di it was nearly up to her hips ! I wonder where she is now? And Ann Sutton?

Rae Mitchell(nee Cleverly) (M77-81)

      

      

18 Sept 2018

Yes Rae, I do remember the WGS Birthday parties and the requirement for staff to 'entertain' the girls on alternate years. I was the author of a few sketches including one where Brenda Beatson and Kay Walsh ripped the sleeves off my shirt and sprayed me with a fire extinguisher. Ritual humiliation for male teachers was the order of the day. Micky Arnold  and Alex Gowans ( HODS ..Art & Mod. Languages respectively ) formed a band to perform Chuck Berry numbers (Micky only knew Chuck Berry guitar chords !) Alex just beat away upon his double bass. It was called 'Bulk Rubbish' and I jumped out of a dustbin to provide the 'vocals'.  I knew Anne Sutton very well as we both started the Open University Bachelor Of Arts courses at the same time. I believe she was in Edinburgh house and shared a flat with a lady who taught R.E. with Rev. Bill Fillery.

Colin Hawthorne (M74-79)

      

     

19 Sept 2018

Lots of wonderful memories Colin. I remember all those characters that you mention but your Rock Band must have been before I arrived. I won't bore you (and others) reminiscing about the various sketches that I remember.
I think Anne shared with Jill Emms.
I was in touch with Rina for a while but since she retired from her school in Peru I don't seem able to contact her.

Rae Mitchell(nee Cleverly) (M77-81)

         

        

19 Sept 2018

Rae.Di Bridges returned to Hereford to teach and retired about 10 years ago.She lives just North of the city and is very active in her local church including sponsoring a school in Africa which she visits regularly.She has travelled extensively over the years including a trip to South America where she visited Rina in Peru.

Alan Hughes (E72-82)

        

      

19 Sept 2018

Alan Hughes, your name is not familiar to me but many thanks for giving me news of Di. If you are in touch with her please pass on my best wishes.

Rae Mitchell(nee Cleverly) (M77-81)

      

         

20 Sept 2018

Dear Rae, How interesting that you have been in touch with Rina (nee Blackman).  I corresponded with her in the mid '90s as I  applied for a teaching post at her school-  San Silvestre Girls in Peru. Circumstances changed and I found a post in Kuwait as an English teacher. Rina was the headmistress of this prestigious school in Peru. Her mother passed away but her father came out to live with her in Peru. I do believe that she is a widow. I enjoyed her company at WGS and we had great laughs in Malborough House - ruled by Pearl Waldron. Weird concidences... Rina  became HOD English at WGS before her departure to Peru and I was HOD English at the International School in Kuwait before my departure in 2005. I'm now retired in Nottingham.

Colin Hawthorne (M74-79)

          

      

20 Sept 2018

My problem with food has always been an addiction to eggs. I remember on one occasion being 'on duty' one evening in Caernarvon when I learned that the remaining 18 hard boiled eggs  were about to be thrown away and so I volunteered to take them home with me.

As I recall. there weren't many left by the time I reached 31, Am Huckenholz  

On a more serious note, I was depressed to read of the passing of Jeff Andrews. His contribution to the school was immense, not least for his music. He came to visit us for a Windsor get-together in Eastcote , I think in 1974. Can someone tell me more?

Mike Capey (C63-70)

       

       

21 Sept 2018

Dear Rae, My apologies ! I declare myself  an ex-HOD English and make two horrible 'typos' in my posting ! I should have written 'coincidences' and 'Marlborough'. Pearl Waldron would have me on the carpet for these spelling errors !. I must admit that whilst I embrace the wonderful technology of the internet, I am still one who loved the 'John Bull Printing Outfit' in my youth. Just to say that I keep in touch with Micky and Thea Arnold who now live in Broadstairs, Kent.

Colin Hawthorne (M74-79)

        

    

23 Sept 2018

Greetings to Tiny Latham. You refer to Mrs Muir and the SAGO incident.
This reminds me that Mrs Muir used to take us Non Conformists, I was Church of Scotland, for Scripture/Bible Study every now and then in her flat. I think these sessions must have occurred during the rest period when everyone else was horizontal on their bed. I think she also took us to a Non Con. church in Munster from time to time and on these occasions we missed morning service in the Chapel but back in time for evensong.In order to keep an ecumenical outlook I also went to Mass with Michael Barnacoat and sat at the back as an observer. Blah,Blah.

Geoff McPate (S53-57)

         

         

25 Sept 2018

I was  a student there in 1965 for about three years in Balmoral house also my brother attended the school a year after me ...his name is Gerald Hadland. ..just came across the society while doing a search online about the school and what became of it after it closed in 1983.

Bill Hadland (B65-68)

         

    

27 Sept 2018

I am making notes on some scrap paper at the moment and this has reminded me of the "high quality" exercise books we used at school. They had a manila cover with a logo bearing a crown and the letters S O and some reference numbers.The actual pages were an olive green sort of colour,very fibrous in texture and acted like blotting paper when writing in ink. I don't think we had ball point pens at that time but some may know otherwise?

Geoff McPate (S53-57)

       

          

30 Sept 2018

Geoff McPate - we certainly were using ball points in the 1960s, but Padre McClure thought this made our handwriting worse.  So he sold fountain pens at reduced prices to try and encourage us to use proper pens instead.  At least the pens were the ones with ink cartridges, rather than the "dip" pens we had when I was much younger!

On another subject - I have just spent a few days in Europe.  We stayed in Soest, which I haven't visited since Third Year Camp in 1964.  It has certainly been developed somewhat since then, although the centre is pedestrianised.  It still has a Woolworth, which surprised me - and of course, a Currywurst-Bude.  We struggled to park there so drove to the Moehnesee.  There has been quite a drought in northern Germany this year, so we were shocked to see how low the water level was.  We also visited Werl, which we enjoyed (and which also has a Woolworth!).  We went to Werl when I was at WGS to see the Queen when she came for her visit to Germany in 1965, but only to an army camp - Canadian, I think.  Temperatures, by the way, were around 25 degrees - like summer!  But traffic throughout the Ruhrgebiet was a nightmare, for those considering driving through - plan extra time.  We didn't go to Hamm on this visit.

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

        

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