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1 November 2018

Forgive me for not posting Geoff; I have been travelling.  On Monday 29th October I was in Gibraltar where it was unseasonably cold. A brisk walk up to The Rock Hotel for a coffee did the trick. I don't know you Pamela but we could have met and discussed WGS !!!

Rae Mitchell (nee Cleverly) (M77-81)

        

          

1 November 2018

Many thanks for the good wishes Sebrof. Malcolm  - Yes late but you like Sebrof probably didn't know about it and anyway the mere fact that you used my 'violin' in your working life more than makes up for it. As the saying goes 'Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

        

           

2 November 2018

Rae - just missed you in Gib! Yes, it wasn't the best time to visit Gib, we had just a couple of good days during our ten days there, otherwise cool with torrential rain, causing severe flooding in Spain.  And a snowstorm as we drove back through to Santander. We were actually being tossed about in the Bay of Biscay on 29 October, so I would rather have been in Gib and on land.  The last time I was at the Rock Hotel was about a year ago, I met up with some of the girls who went to Loreto Convent with me, telling them about attending WGS.  I suppose it is always intriguing for people who only ever lived in one place and attended one primary and one secondary school!

I know you like the Sauerland, and when I go back to that area I always remember Mr Hern taking us on hikes through the woods.  I think on the whole we were lucky with our staff - we had Miss Park-Thomas in St James House, she would take us for walks at weekends, to Schloss Heessen and along the canal banks. Some lovely memories!  Mind you, Mr Hern was not averse to making us walk through several feet of snow on his "detours".  I didn't get to Warstein on my trip to the area in September - my grandfather came from there, but not sure if there are still any relatives in the area, would probably be fairly distant.

Getting into November reminds me of preparing for the Christmas Fair.  Mrs Ingle (bursar's wife) used to make Christmas decorations with the girls from St James, to sell at the Fair - usually half-logs with evergreen foliage and pine cones, sprayed with gold or pretend snow type of thing.  And the concert, which usually involved me in some capacity, mainly scene-painting, lighting and sound.

Pamela Ross (StJ63 - 68)

         

      

2 November 2018

Just seen the post from Gerry (Boots) Kelly. I don't post as often as I should, and I'm not on any form of social media, so this is important to us "dinosaurs" as Mr Hearn describes us. Unfortunately, nearly all the posts are from people from different house and years to me, but it's still nice to keep up.I live in Fueretventura now, all sunshine and warmth - someone has to do it! I was in dorms 3 and 4 and forms 4c and 5c during the summer term of '62 and the year of '63, then returned to the UK. It would be really nice to hear from people either in the house or those forms during this time. Alan Banks, Robert Chetwynd, Keith Wollaston, Keith Reade, "Pooky", "Hod" Hodkisson to name but a few. Best wishes to all.

John Bartlett (S62-63)

          

    

2 November 2018

Pamela I'm so glad that you still remember the rambles. In your days I think that they were part of the Sixth Form Society but later Terry Lake and I started the Rambling Club with Joyce Barker where 6th formers went on two or three Saturday rambles per term. Always in the Sauerland. As far as 'going on detours' it was always prefaced by the comment 'Walking along this track is boring lets go straight up this hillside'. Silly maybe but part of the fun. If my memory serves me correctly, and that's not certain, Rae came on some of them too. It would be great if that's how her love of the area started. A thick layer of nostalgia again - apologies to those who don't like it but you know me!

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

       

    

5 November 2018

Hi Windsor items
Can anyone remember celebrating Halloween or Guy Fawkes at Windsor?
I can't but likely I was on yet another detention for some wild and woolly reason!!!

LOL

Izzzi Forbes (B72-75)

       

    

6 November 2018

Hallo iZZZZi!  Perhaps things had changed by the time you were at WGS, but in my time we always celebrated Bonfire Night.  Not Hallowe'en so much, but we would have Holy Communion on the morning of 1 November (All Saints') if I remember rightly.

In fact, I had been remembering WGS Bonfire Nights yesterday.  The houses would each build a guy and there was a competition - the "best" guy would have pride of place on top of the bonfire, which used to be on the end of the shale running track which was parallel to the gym. 

The fireworks display was at the open air theatre, and the school used to invite local children to watch - from an orphanage, I believe. After the fireworks, Mr Stirk would provide hot cocoa, I can't remember if there were jacket potatoes as well.  We used to dance congas around the field - St James girls singing "When St James go marching in".

It was certainly something we looked forward to!  

Pamela Ross (StJ63 - 68)

          

     

6 November 2018

In November 1956 our Guy Fawkes celebrations were postponed due the on going Hungarian Revolution (23 Oct.-10 Nov.) We had to bring our suitcases up from the basement and have them ready for a quick evacuation  of the school in case the situation deteriorated further.

Geoff. McPate (S53-57)

          

       

8 November 2018

I have a simply question. Did our parents have to pay for us to attend WBS or WGS ? 
If so how much ? I was asked that question today and couldn't remember.
Geoff , so happy to see you still posting regularly.
I'm in touch with Gerry Mills, Paul Clay, Paul Sayers, Dave Hodgson, Mike Downey and Ian Sanderson. We even meet annually at least , to reminisce. Meeting Dave next month in Bognor .......we know how to live the good life ..

Ralph Bennett (M61-68)

           

      

9 November 2018

Ralph, I haven't got a clue and I'm afraid I'm an orphan now so I can't ask my parents. Logic says that they probably paid a contribution but we're discussing HM Government, MOD etc. here so who knows what went on?
I await the answer with interest, too.

Malcolm Graham (E60-65)

I think parents had to pay for your board but not for the education. - Bill

        

      

9 November 2018

Apologies for no recent posts.My wife,Liz,has been undergoing chemotherapy for about 3 months with some success but some nasty side-effects leading to several visits to our local A and E.It's like climbing three steps and sliding back two.Things are now slowly improving.I have nothing but praise for the majority of NHS professionals we have met,especially those in Velindre cancer centre in Cardiff who do a fantastic job under huge pressure.It's good to see this site up and running again.      

Alan Hughes (B72-82)

       

     

10 November 2018

To answer Ralph's question on fees. Tuition itself was free, as it was at state schools in UK.  Parents had to pay in several ways for "extras"  Firstly for food/accommodation/laundry. This was on a sliding scale so privates paid much less than brigadiers.  In 1959 for example if the pay and family allowance was less than £400pa the rate was 15/6 a week.If over £1600 then it was 31/-. Second charge was for shoe repairs and haircutting.  Third was for the school amenity fund for school mag, bonfire night, school trips etc. Then pocket money based on age of pupil. RRates changed every full years.  If your parent was not "entitled" (eg Du Ponters, Embassy) then rates much higher!

Steve Green (C66-69)

         

      

11 November 2018

September 14th 1959 was the official start date of WBS and WGS when Windsor merged with King Alfred School (KAS) Ploen.  The girls school in Hamm wasn't quite ready for occupancy so we (Windsor Girls) trundled up north to Ploen joining the girls from KAS for one term moving into what had had been the KAS boys quarters.
Positive miracles were worked by many preparing the school for habitation by over 600 people for the start of term 2 on February 2nd 1960.
The local newspaper "Westfalen Anzeiger und Kurier" reported on the 29th January 1960
"Ehemalige Kasernen werden Maedcheninternat - Dienstag kommen 600 junge Englaenderinnen nach Hamm - The English are coming!

Ellen Warnaby (B59-62)

           

     

13 November 2018

Good to see one of your infrequent posts Ralph (hint?) but Mike and Dave seemed to have stopped. Is Mike still in the USA? Has he come to any of your ex-Marlborough sessions?
Alan I hope that Liz is continuing to improve and as regards the NHS in my all-too frequent dealings (age!!!) with them they have been excellent. Caring, efficient and I have felt in good hands. Annoys me at times that the BBC seem to only report on the bad news about the NHS. For me the NHS does great work in difficult circumstances and there are bound to be problems from time to time in such a big organisation. (Hope I can say that without folk thinking it is political).
Sorry Izzzi but I can't add anything about bonfire night as I was never in school when it took place - just remember a bonfire being built between the swimming pool and the tennis courts. As for Halloween - it wasn't important for Brits then. 

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

        

     

14 November 2018

I always keep an eye on the site , but generally speaking I keep my powder dry and limit any comments to subjects and topics that I can or could have related to away back between 1959 and 1961. I do enjoy having a look at new postings but feel a bit disappointed when there are very few connections to my era. I never remembered a Bonfire Night when I was there, but that could be down to memory lapse.  Recently I have had very interesting contact by email linking with Steve Green and his efforts to compile the Windsor School history.  I am fortunate to have a 1959 Concordia from which Steve was able to extract 'missing links' to his composition.  Likewise, Steve was able to impart information from a Concordia article in which I featured over a couple of lines.  Does anyone have memories of the handing out of 'House Colours'?  This was an honour or achievement handed out at the behest of the Housemaster for sporting achievement and I presume it was not only Caernarvon !
that did it.  If my memory serves me correctly, there was a board or display panel on which these names were recorded.  I got my 'colours' presented at the end of my final term in Summer 1961 but have no idea if I ever ended up on a display panel.  I wonder whatever happened to all the display memorabilia that must have adorned walls in all the Houses when the school closed in 1983. 
I read your comments with interest too Geoff, but worry not, I have not stopped, I am just quietly lurking in the wings.

Dave Gray (C59-61)

         

     

15 November 2018

Hi all, The differing memories of bonfire night demonstrates how things at Windsor changed over time - as they do with everything in this life.

Dave I can relate to your disappointment that those from your era don't make many entries on this site as I find it the same.  I dipped my toe in Facebook some time ago and did find a few of my peer group. I do not like Facebbok and was receiving material that could have put my professional registration in jeopardy as we can be checked at any time and colleagues have been caught out.

Dave I cannot remember the displays on awards you mention.  I did receive the attainment award for something (cannot remember what).  To this day I believe I was given it in an attempt to inspire me to behave myself?
For the award I chose a book on Dressmaking which I have used and still have.

Good to hear from you Geoff, Pamela and Ffoeg.  LOL iZZZZZi aka Sebrof

Izzzi Forbes (B72-75)

        

     

15 November 2018

Good to see your posting Dave and to know that you visit the site regularly. I expect others do the same but like you only post now and again. If at all. I don't remember you but I was still very much a greenhorn of under 2 years teaching experience in your time so unless you had the misfortune to be in a class that I taught then our paths would not have crossed and you probably don't remember me either. In retrospect it was all alien to me and perhaps I fitted too easily into the rather public school style 'system' in that first year and only began to question some of its aspects soon afterwards. Luckily things changed for the better and even before the Wylie revolution.
Good to see a posting from you too Sebrof. I have avoided Facebook as in my aged state I find the site difficult to trust. Although many students from the 4 schools that I taught at have encouraged me to do so.


Ralph Have a good time reminiscing with Dave in Bognor but remember what George V is reputed to have said about the place. As a lad I went on many days out there as it was the cheapest coach trip to the seaside when I lived in Windsor. There was a good switchback ride there.


Now all you readers but quiet folks out there how about trying your hand at posting. If I can do it anybody can.

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

          

      

16 November 2018

I think Dave might have been thinking of the boards - certainly at WGS - which were in the Assembly Hall.  It was my ambition to get my name on one of those!  They were wooden boards, listing the names of girls who had achieved O or A levels.  We didn't have the same kind of "colours" awards for sports as the boys, but presumably WBS had that kind of display as well.  At WGS they were in the foyer.  Like Dave, I often wonder what happened to the boards.

An old friend of mine - a former dorm mate - was in touch recently and spoke of some rival walks to yours, Geoff.  You may remember that we had to sign up to various activities, and she had signed up to go on walks with Miss Hayter.  I think Miss Hayter also looked after the guides?  My friend Sue also mentioned staying overnight at a youth hostel and being allowed to go on walks wearing civvies on those walks.

Sue had been at school from First year, but left before Sixth Form, so didn't have the "benefit" of Geoff's Windsor Society walks ;-)  

I got a couple of awards at school - I still have them, including the complete works of Shakespeare.  I know it was difficult for those making awards, they apparently had to order the books in September to award the following July - so it was often the case that the staff weren't quite sure who would "qualify" when the time came.  One award I got was for German, it was a book of French verse! However, my art teacher planned ahead - he had decided I would get the prize, and he made sure it was a book I would appreciate - a book on the art of ancient civilisations as he knew I was interested in ancient history too.

Pamela Ross (StJ63 - 68)

         

        

16 November 2018

Fresh from my recent lurking I have surfaced again to say thank you for your responses, Izzzi, Geoff and Pamela. The Award records for anyone at both schools, have probably been stored somewhere never to see the light of day again, which is a shame. Pamela's mention of the Assembly Hall reminded me of one of its other uses which was for film showing.  I don't remember there being many film evenings, but I do remember enduring a split session of War and Peace.  One other film was Rio Bravo where Angie Dickinson and John Wayne starred.  I seem to remember a bit was sanitised where a smooch should have been, in case it was too much for a 13 year old boy to endure.
The AKC (Army Kinema Corporation) was one of my favourite haunts when home during the school holidays.  As with the majority of locations, it was based within the Army Barracks near to where families lived.  My AKC was in the St. David's Barracks Hilden and I have very happy memories of times at that barracks where the Primary School I was at before Windsor, was also situated.
Such a pity that over the years the AKC was swallowed up into other Film Companies and eventually lost its name.  Apparently all the records for it have been lost as well as any information on any of the staff who worked in them.  Many a Pathe News programme with the posh and very clipped announcer's voice was watched in the AKC.  A very British and uplifting programme for an Army Brat.

Dave Gray (C59-61) 

         

   

17 November 2018

November 16th 2018 - a date to remember. Pamela has finally stopped calling me Mr Hern. Just thought I'd mention it!
Dave - yes the Saturday evening film became a fixture and was well-attended. Some of us trained on the projectionist's course. Rather a harrowing job adjusting the carbon rods so that the screen remained bright and trying to change reels without a break for fear of upsetting the audience. Who were only to pleased to let you know if things went wrong of course!! The Dam Busters film was frequently shown - one of Pete Kitchen's favourites.

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

             

 

17 November 2018

My Dad,  Alec Chater who taught at WBS from 1968 to 1973 Marlborough House, died last night. He had been unwell and frail for a number of weeks. He always spoke fondly of his time at WBS and we, as a family loved our time in Hamm.

Lorraine Walker (M68-73)

        

    

17 November 2018

Hi Lorraine Walker:  My condolences to you and your family. I have great memories of your Dad; he was my geography teacher when I arrived at WBS in 1969 - entertaining classes and I remember him taking us on field trips down to the Ahse river 

Bobby Hoffman (E69-75)

        

     

17 November 2018

Yes, Mr Hern, still in the USA (north of Boston).  I have not posted for a while, I agree.  But I still  read the posts.

I have more or less retired from squash and am now busier than ever babysitting grandkids with my wife.   

Regrettably have not made any Marlborough reunions with Paul Sayers, Paul  Clay, Ralph Bennett,Gerry Mills or Dave Hodgson.  But the great thing is, thanks to the internet, we are all in touch!  Like I say every year, I will try for this Summer!

I still have my D of E record book!  There's an entry on 18/7/68 shuttle relay 16.8 seconds and signed by G.Hern, other entries are signed by B.Cadby, K. Thompson and G. Lee's who gave me a lousy report for table tennis!!

I'm glad the WBS site is up and running. I always look forward to reading the messages.

Mike Downey (M65-68)

          

           

18 November 2018

My sincere condolences to the family Lorraine. I have many great memories of Alec. He was always so good-humoured and often told us about his life on the railways. A refreshing touch of the real world outside our rather enclosed WBS existence.

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

         

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