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04 August 2018

Hi all, It's been very quite here! Hope is all OK with everyone?

Pamela I totally agree with regards beauty of your surroundings but I don't want you to tell everybody.

If these hot summers continue as they are supposed to you'll get invaded by even more tourists - not good as other beautiful places have been spoilt by busy, litter and that big bogey man the greed for money.  And that's just for starters!!!

When I went to Jersey in the late 70's it was gorgeous.  When I returned in 2001 I was so saddened by the devastation it had suffered through tourism I vowed I would never return and never will.

You cannot buy the beauty of nature but it is easily destroyer by the worst species on earth us humans!!!     LOL iZZZZi

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

           

      

05 August 2018

 Hmm, I understand the feelings of those who feel that others shouldn't be allowed to destroy their particular bit of coast, hill, walk, and so on, but play fair, we have been blessed with glorious surroundings and the knowledge of where these places are; but does that not deny the 'Mrs Miggins of Halifax' the right to share our joy of the environment just because her circumstance less favourable than the one we have been lucky enough to enjoy. Sorry, but shame on this house. Let all enjoy the beauty wherever it is found.

John Eustace (M59-62)

      

       

06 August 2018

John, if you read Izzi's post she is not against people coming to appreciate local beauty spots but is against the commercialisation and the  thoughtlessness of some visitors. A few years ago I revisited Lands End to find that the area had been turned into a Theme Park - they had even removed the famous sign and put one up in a secure area so you had to pay to be photographed beside it.

The area has been ruined in the name of tourism not by the people going there.

I have never and will never go back there.

Bill Craswell (C62-65)

       

06 August 2018

On the subject of tourists (grockles, lol) take a look at what the hoards did to the lower gardens in Bournemouth this last weekend on Facebook, the moral is if you like to visit nature take your rubbish home! don't leave it for the locals to clear up, after all this is how some grass/forest fires start, sorry to have a go but it does wind me up, thanks

Robert (Bob) Moore (C62-64)
        

       

06 August 2018

Oh dear, I never intended stirring up a debate!  I wonder if you have ever been to Halifax, John - it is in a beautiful area, surrounded by lovely countryside :-)  No doubt Mrs Miggins goes out walking there - or maybe she goes to Scarborough for the day.  I remember taking a group of geology enthusiasts round Scarborough (when I still lived in North Yorkshire) - some were coming from Leeds on a bus, and hadn't realised that the sheer weight of traffic would turn what should have been a two hour drive into over three hours.  I now live in a lovely part of Scotland, which is a "long way" from most places, and which most people in England are totally unaware of.  If you every stray in this direction, please let me know, John - you are welcome to visit and I will show you round (the places I have so far discovered!) - the same goes for iZZZZi and Bill of course.  Geologists are currently debating whether we are now in the Anthropocene Age - dominated by what humans have done!
e done to the world.  I suppose the bottom line is, enjoy our beautiful planet, but do so with respect and sustainably, and with consideration for our fellow men and women.  There are certainly places I have been or lived which I wouldn't want to go back to as they have been so over-developed or turned into money-making rackets.  For years, we paid 50p to walk on the Upper Rock of Gibraltar on our visits.  Last time, it had been increased to £5 per person (doesn't apply to residents, of course).  We don't walk there any more.  Now - to include a Windsor related item - I remember Miss Park-Thomas taking us for walks along the canal and to Schloss Heessen - that was a lovely walk in the summer.  The rumour was she married a Count and went to live in Italy?

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

      

     

08 August 2018

How strange that 'Mrs Miggins' should show up on this website. As I recall, she was the proprietress of a coffee shop frequented by Blackadder of T.V. fame. Mrs Miggins had romantic feelings about Butler Blackadder but he had a great 'put down' line ! 'Mrs Miggins,if you were the last woman on earth, I would try starting a family with Baldrick!'

Colin Hawthorne (M74-79)

       

      

10 August 2018

We have a bit of a litter problem here in Aviemore in the Cairngorm National Park but I guess it could be a lot worse.  I'm in a dog owners group for the Highlands on Facebook and we have recently started a litter picking event.  On the last weekend of the  month just take a bag on your normal walk and pick up litter on the way.

My partner is a mountain guide and regularly has German clients.  I'm always keen to know where they are from but it's never been from the places I lived...but next week he has clients from Krefeld (the last town I lived in) and then later in the week from Hanover, where I was when at WBS.  The Hanoverians live round the corner from my old house!

Michael Cutts (M77-79)

      

      

11 August 2018

Michael - if you're at Aviemore, I suppose you could count for a neighbour, certainly in this part of the world where we are a long way from anywhere else!  Interesting that you have visitors from Krefeld - it's where my parents settled after my father left the army (he went to work for the NAAFI) - my two sisters still live there.

I've seen a similar initiative for litter at beaches - pick up three items of rubbish when you walk on the beach to put in a bin when you leave.

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

         

        

11 August 2018

Hi Pamela

I'm glad you started environment topic as it is obviously so important to many of us.
I'm surprised that there has not been an input from Geoff given his love of the great outdoors.
Are you all right Ffoeg?

Respect was at the heart of what we were taught at Windsor right down to hospital corners and quarter master checks.  Just as important as what we were taught in the classroom.  LOL iZZZZZi

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

    

    

12 August 2018

Regards current topic - it is interesting to see that Cornwall is struggling with overcrowding on beaches with the 'unprecedented mass tourism' they are experiencing. They have stopped advertising this beauty spot.
I rest my case iZZZZZi

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

          

      

12 August 2018

Hi Pamela, In this part of the world I think it counts as touching distance.

I visited Krefeld just under two years ago (following a trip to the Somme to visit the WWI graves of two relatives).  It was great to walk up and down Kempener Allee and wander around the town centre.  I also fitted in a day trip to Hamm to see what was left of WBS as well as our old house, as we had lived there in 70 to 72 and I attended Hamm Primary.

Michael Cutts (M77-79)

       

     

12 August 2018

Sorry for the delay Sebrof but I've been pondering what I could add to the debate. Those of you who remember will recall that it was a big topic for the D of E and we used to come down hard on those dropping litter. But it has always been a bit of a losing battle - and not just in GB - in spite of the fact that everybody says that they don't like to see it. On my daily walks along the narrow roads near here tins, plastic bottles & bags, paper and even the odd tyre festoon the verges and hedges and I always return home with other people's litter. But next day it's back again!! It's not fly-tipping but appears to be a complete lack of consideration for the surroundings and for others. As a lad I took the - as it was then - 'Keep Britain Tidy' motto to heart and as a family we never dropped litter.

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

       

      

13 August 2018

Further to the posts re litter.I remember trying to instil a respect for the environment in our boys from an early age.They'd come home with pocketsful of litter (not all their own)which needed emptying on wash day.They in turn are doing the same with their own children. Not rocket science is it?

Alan Hughes (E72-82)

     

      

14 August 2018

In the words of Pud Watson "Pick oop t'toffee pepers on way t' maths block."
Dropping litter is one of the absolute no nos drummed into me by my parents and schools - and I've continued the campaign through our family. Just wish everyone else would do it, too.

Malcolm Graham (E60-65)

          

    

14 August 2018

Hi all
It's amazing how litter can stir up emotions and bring so many posts! LOL iZZZZZi

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

    

       

20 August 2018

Good evening Teachers
I don't recall being taught this although I acknowledge that I probably was.

Why do we hand and hands but foot and feet?
Leg and legs but tooth and teeth?

What is that called in grammar? Why does it happen please?  LOL iZZZZZi

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

         

        

24 August 2018

Light blue touchpaper and retire! Always happy to provoke a debate, especially on the beauties of our planet. Pamela Ross, you may well be picked up on your invitation. My experiences of Scotland relate to the Festival and the launch of a frozen minced white fish for cats called  Prize Catch based in the Shetland Islands. I can send a case study as to why it failed, not least moggy owners not wanting to spend time to blow the fish cold, prior to serving to salivating cats!
Now to Mrs Miggins, I use her a lot, in describing to marketers what a load of bollocks they talk when debating omni-channel marketing! She is unwittingly my role model, in attempting to suggest that 89% of the population don't give a fig for mobile/internet phone shopping. Bless her!
I loved Halifax, still do, Pellon Lane was where Mars had a Pet-Food unit called Thomas's and the countryside is/was glorious, wonderful stone built buildings, Shibden Mill Inn warmly recommended. 
As for my comments about sharing natures beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder. Children evacuated during WW2 from London had never seen grass, imagine how they felt!

John Eustace (M59-62)

No grass in London in the 40's - I doubt it or did you mean children had never seen cows?   Bill    

      

    

25 August 2018

Stepney Green was an oxymoron sadly. I hold my ground on this one. There were children living in London evacuated,  who had never seen the countryside in its glory, that includes grass, never mind not knowing milk came from cows. Sad but true I'm afraid.
The Samaritan movement created by Rev. Chad Varah was based on the ignorance of a young girl who had no one to turn to, because ignorance of matters body, mind and soul, was all too common in the late forties. Happily we, sought of, live in a different world.

John Eustace (M59-62)

    

     

25 August 2018

Hi John, can you enlighten me as to why you thought there was no grass in London in the 1940's?

I lived in London in the 1960's and there was an abundance of green space which had been there for many a year.  I spent many happy days on Putney Common and Hyde Park to mention a few.

I was also fortunate enough to attend a fantastic school on Feldham Road and we were taken on a week's adventure to the Isle of Wight where we were taken to explore a farm and get up close and personal with a herd of cows.

London has many beautiful parks that are well worth a visit.

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

      

      

26 August 2018

My father was evacuated in August 1939 from Canning Town in the East End to a small village in Somerset. He had seen grass, in the local playing fields, and remembers it being covered over for anti-aircraft guns.  His initial memories of village life were no indoor toilet (outhouse at bottom of garden with hole in ground), no warm water, no electricity or lighting. Far cry from the new council house in London. It was the first time he had seen fruit on trees,chickens laying eggs and horses running in fields instead of pulling carts.

Steve Green (C66-69)

        

        

30 August 2018

Well folks
There has only been one post from Geoff this month!!!
Hope to hear more from you in September Ffoeg

LOL iZZZZZi

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

          

       

30 August 2018

Well Folks, another hornets nest!In 1953 at the ripe old age of eight I recall the Headmaster of South Cerney C.o.E Primary school telling of children evacuated some 10/12 years earlier arriving from the East End of London never having experienced any grass, or countryside, or animals. Given one believed teachers in those days, I accept it may be a small sample and not statistically valid, but I think we have to accept children from London slums were not well served by circumstance. Hopefully we can all accept not all are borne equal!

John Eustace (M59-62)

        

             

30 August 2018

Hi John, I note you went to a C of E school
One thing I really liked about Windsor was that religion was never an issue and I never heard it discussed other than when we all moaned about having to attend a service on a Sunday morning!!!
Morning assembly included everyone.

The religious issues in central Scotland were a big shock to me and 'which school did you go to?' is regularly used to establish what you are.
I have great delight in saying Windsor as this gives no clue to my religion. The down side is people think you are a snob or odd because you went to boarding school.  'Didn't your parents care about you?'

One good thing about this forum is that we understand Windsor. LOL iZZZZZi

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

        

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