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3 May 2017

Hi all, April was a bit quiet around here - hope there will be more blethering in May.

It's over a month since we heard from Ffoeg (Geoff Hern) - hope all is OK and we'll be hearing from him shortly? I really miss his banter!!!!

Malcolm, was your good lady happy with all your efforts in the hoos? Sure hope so. Are you available to do mine per chance as my other hawf is useless at DIY??? (only kidding of course

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

7 May 2017

Thanks Sebrof but I decided to take month off posting and give others a chance. Although I check daily. Perhaps at times I miss the point of the website and stray too far off the Windsor memories. Although what people are doing and thinking now has always been important to me and must surely in part be the result of the time (good or bad) that they spent in Hamm. Hope your job continues to give satisfaction and that the new employer is living up to expectations.

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

7 May 2017

Phew, I shared more than a little concern that GH had quietly dropped off this site. Wondering aloud if my poor use of the English language, as wot it is writ, was a contributory cause. Nostalgia is all well and good but comment on the here and now is pretty important too, given the state of the world. But now all is well with the world, the sun shines and we can expect sanity on these pages again soon...

John Eustace (M59-62)

7 May 2017

Hi Ffoeg, Great to see you back - and glad you have been keeping a beady eye on us - hope you weren't toooooooo disappointed that we were all well behaved!?!?!

You were correct when you noted that what's happening to us all today is important and interesting as our days at Windsor had a major influence on our opinions and ethics - our 'personhood'.

The job was very disappointing and I am no longer working there - the focus on paper work which impresses the powers that be does little to enhance the quality of life for Service Users. Confidentiality is very restricting as inspectors cannot enter Service Users homes with out a rigmarole so they mainly base their reports on information from staff who live in fear of being decapitated if they say the wrong thing.
In a conversation I had with a member of the companies hierarchy they mentioned a complaint had been received about a bed not made properly by a colleague. They said the Service User was over fussy and probably wanted 'hospital corners'............ RED RAG TO BULL!!!!!!!!!
I will not detail the poor care I witnessed but I have reached a conclusion - I will not be working in the care profession in future as it is soul destroying.

I really enjoyed managing a famous pizza outlet in a previous life!!! Achieved the stats, earned the bonus.

There are always jobs if you are prepared to work and some employers do respect the work ethic instilled in me at WGS.

Catch ye

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

8 May 2017

Sebrof I'm so disappointed that you never again intend to work in the care sector. Form-filling came into British teaching in a big way in the 1980's and was one of the many reasons that I decided to get out of the UK again. Always regarded it as an invention of the bureaucrats to convince themselves that those at the 'coal face' were doing their jobs properly. Ignoring the fact that time spent ticking boxes means that it takes them away from where they should be. In my case with students in the classroom. Tended to ignore it as much as I was allowed to and just got on with what I was really there for. Careful Geoff you're starting to rant. 'Work ethic' linked to WGS careful Sebrof!!
Sorry to have given you some concern John but it's nice to know that I'm missed. 'Like toothache' as the old saying goes. I still look back to those early Marlborough days with a lot of affection in spite of the rather harsh regime. Evans, Goad, Govier, Leggatt, Papadakis, Locatelli, .... and all the rest of your contemporaries. One long learning curve for me as a 'greenhorn' in the boarding school world.

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

11 May 2017

Hi Ffoeg, Before you get toooooooo excited about my work ethic coming from WGS it is partly good and a big bit big negs!!!!!!!
I vowed I would never treat any vulnerable biddy the way I was there!!!!

Was Latin taught at Windsor? If it was did many people take it?

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

12 May 2017

Geoff Hern I thought you would be amused to know that a photo appeared on Facebook this week of the entrance to the Schueztenhalle in the Sauerland. In front are Martin, me either Steve Gulley or Chris Lane (there is some uncertainty!) and Paul Lafferty. There S a lot of hair in evidence! About to go off on expedition. All kitted up. Running past us back into the hut is Ma Marr and behind us in the doorway is you. Classic Sauerland photo. No idea who took it but probably Tommo or Rammers! About 1974. Also Martin and I had a 60th birthday in Newcastle recently and had a visit from Al Grainger, Virginia Kitchen and Erhard "Vanners" Vandaele. Hope you are keeping well.

Simon Brindley (E69-75)

12 May 2017

I noticed a news article the other day about some children in one particular area using aerosols as flame throwers. That took me right back to Dorm 06 in the third year when we discovered the joys of flammable chemicals after lights out. We set boot polish alight in its tin, Brut deodorant was used as a flame thrower (possibly the only acceptable use of this product), and deodorant sticks as a flaming torches. We were quizzed by a prefect one night as we had glass blocks at the top of the wall adjoining the corridor, but we managed to persuade him that a boy in Hillsborough had been signalling us with a lighter and that would have been the flickering light he had seen....remarkably he believed us!

Michael Cutts (M77-79)

12 May 2017


Hi all ye X E'burg students from the seventies,

Who was the teacher that fined us 50 Pfennings a toe for having bare feet in the corridor when verruca season was rife?

Come on you sneaky peekers - Sue, Pat, etc

We ran up the corridor with one slipper on to get huckled for 25 Pfennings...... Pure mischief!!!!!!!!!!!

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

12 May 2017

Sorry to hear about your work problems, Izzzi - one of the pleasures of retirement, no boss/company to have to kowtow to. Good luck with whatever you light on next.

As to Latin - way back in the Dark Ages when I was at Windsor, if you wanted to go to a good university, you needed Latin. It was certainly offered as a subject - I think to the top grammar stream. Miss Phillips, who also looked after the Chapel Choir, was my teacher for O level - previously it had been Miss Dunford, I think. When we got to fourth year, we had to choose O level subjects. Maths, French, Eng Lit and Eng Lang were compulsory. By choosing Latin, I had to drop Geography. Miss Phillips believed Latin should be spoken like modern Italian, it was impressive to hear her spouting forth! I can't remember how many girls took it - I think there was also an option to do Greek when in sixth form if you needed it for uni. I could go back and look at the old Ambassadors to add up how many of my year group succeeded!

Just back from a visit to Gibraltar, which is where I lived before going to WGS - hence the "radio silence" from me in April.

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

ps Just checked on the Latin stats - the year I took my O levels, three of us (including me) are on record as having passed - and one girl in sixth form took and passed A level Latin. I don't know if I have any way of working out how many took the exams - the Ambassador only includes anyone who passed them!

13 May 2017

Mornin' Geoff - Division 1 Champions again then, with how many British players/staff? Despite my detestation of the woodwork and metalwork staff at WBS I'm progressing well with major heating and energy saving projects on the house. If half of the calculations and advertising guff are to be believed we'll be living indoors in our beach wear in the middle of winter using only 1KWh of energy. Somehow I don't think that will be the case but it should be a lot better than it was in the past.
iZZZie keep your chin up hen - US style corporate target setting, box ticking and CYA was the main reason I took retirement when I did, too. 'specially when twelve year olds in funny suits carrying laptops started telling us how to run the business.

Malcolm Graham

13 May 2017

29th April 1970. One of the great nights in the life of C.F.C so yesterday beating WBA and winning the Premiership joins the occasion in my mind. 47 years on. My advice to those still bearing grudges about times past is simple, MOVE ON. I honestly think this site is about good memories and I read so much grief, which is sad. Mistakes were made by staff for sure, but nobody died. OK there are scars. But ask yourself the alternatives? I'm often asked why former pupils of the environment we shared find themselves somewhat rootless and my answer 'it comes with the territory' your father defended the country, your life was an inconsequence, but not a bad one in truth. Tom Riley was a great woodwork teacher and a master of teaching me to pitch the ball up to the batsman, I owe him that, it had me enjoy Cricket way beyond my years. Looking forward, I'd love to get to the last game of the Chelsea season vs Sunderland, it reminds me when the ball struck Tommy Harmer on the backside in the 90th minute at Roker Park, such Chelsea needed to win and Sunderland a point and he scored for us to go up from Div2. These are the sort of memories we sh
ould be chasing!!!!!

John Eustace (M59-62)

14 May 2017

Hi, Thank you to those who were disappointed about me leaving my job it is truly appreciated.
While I may not opt to have paid employment in care there are plenty of opportunities in the voluntary sector with less restrictions and a chance to question poor practice - Malkie my chin is well high and I am positive about taking on a new challenge.

It is only dudes like yourselves that experienced somewhere like Windsor who really understand my resilience and most don't appreciate the strength it provides - that is what makes this forum invaluable.

Since 2005 I have had 8 jobs ranging from chef, HR, retail, manager and 4 in care - with care being by far the most disappointing!!!

Malkie, I love targets if they are meaningful and realistic. They have enabled me to make a lot of extra money - 40% on top of my salary in the NHS and ?500 per quarter in catering/management.
In the Civil Service I failed to reach one target but managed just under 150% in another at the same time - I worked on what was important and not something inappropriate and in my opinion unethical but achievable. Fortunately my manager understood my reasoning and moved me to a job nobody wanted - I loved it, received a ?200 'special bonus' and my work was used to train colleagues. Result.

Pamela, I wish I had taken Latin for a strange reason - I am obsessed with quizzes, puzzles, etc (need to keep the grey matter working) and the amount of times I get stuck with Latin is silly.
Do you remember much of what you learnt? Do you use it?
As for Greek - I would have had so many opportunities to practice as the islands are my favourite holiday destination.
In my misspent youth I travelled from Munich to Athens by train - through the former Yugoslavia - memories like that are priceless......

A wee while since we've heard from Dave Gray - what's happening mate? Looking forward to more words of wisdom (rants) from Ffoeg Enough I hear you shout

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

15 May 2017

Just to let you know Martin Potts came for lunch on Friday for a trip from Singapore. Has been made redundant from Nat West/RBS after 37 years - quite happy but will stay in Singapore and do some consultancy work. Had to make him a cooked breakfast though!!!

Christine Willmott (M77-80)

16 May 2017

Hi folks This might be a bit of a long shot - does anyone know the whereabouts of Miss Ann Sutton, staff member in Caernarvon House? Keen to trace her within the next couple of weeks.

Cathy ? (C71-74)

Cathy, it will be difficult to contact you as you haven't given your email or surname. Contacts on this site are always made by passing on the details of the person requesting contact to the person they want to contact. This method is used because meeting up again is not always mutually welcome. That is the only thing email addresses are used for on this site.

16 May 2017

Did I use the Latin I learned, Izzzi? Well, since I initially went on to study languages, it was very useful - partly the vocab, but also the discipline of the grammar. In later life, having done a science degree with the OU, Latin comes up in many science disciplines, also as a gardener - lots of Latin names! My school mates will remember that I was very keen on Ancient Egypt at school, one of the books I have, written at the start of the 20th century, the author includes quotations in Latin, German, French and Greek, but only translates the Greek quotes - he obviously expected his readers to be able to understand the other three languages ;-)

Your trip to Greece sounds great - it was quite a different experience to be travelling in those days. With my interest in Egypt in mind, I spent a lot of my time during prep at WGS planning an overland trip to Egypt with my trusty atlas - never got round to doing that, but I still do a lot of long road trips. That is possibly part of my "heritage" - four days and three nights on a train across Africa as a girl, seven days driving to Gibraltar from northern Germany in the early 60s when my father was posted there. Nowadays, it's a ferry to northern Spain and a long drive down through Spain to Gib, on far better roads than existed in the 60s.

Off to Scotland next month, too - visiting family and exploring ancestral haunts. I always think of you when I see the Kelpies ;-)

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

16 May 2017

The Australian teacher with the v shaped fringe was Miss Kimberley. She taught Geography and was a house teacher in Sandringham with Mrs Smith ( English teacher)

I remember having music lessons at Windsor Girls School. Mr Escott took us for Choir practice but the music teacher for our year was a young lady. She showed us how the pop song How Gentle is the Rain was based on a classical piece!!! We were impressed. The art rooms were in the attics of Sandringham ( next to our tuck shop) and the pottery room was in the basement of Sandringham. I remember having to audition to get into the Chapel and School choir. Anyone remember singing in the choir in the church in Hamm at Christmas? We had to learn some of the carols in German. What about the inter house singing competitions?

Liz Sowten (S65-68)

17 May 2017

Liz - we may well have known each other, your name rings a bell. The music teacher may have been Miss Murray, I think she took over after Mr Escott left.

I did O and A level Art, so spent a lot of time in the Art room at the top of Sandringham block, also did pottery one time as an activity, but not for long - it was far too cold in the cellar, and the water we used was freezing! The photography dark room was also in that cellar, I did a term doing that as well.

The inter-house singing you mention was probably the Spring Festival, which Miss Evans inaugurated as a sort of Eisteddfod, since she was Welsh. Not just singing - but reading poetry, also in French and German, writing poetry, playing instruments, and house choirs. Prize was a daffodil. Not sure how the choir shared one daffodil between them!

I was in the chapel choir, also Robes Mistress, so if you were in the Chapel Choir, you will have known me - I will have allocated you your robes. I used to sit at the front on the left of the choir stalls, seen from the congregation, the last year or so I used to carry the cross in.

Christmas in the Pauluskirche - we would process in as a choir, usually singing Once in David's City, with the first verse sung unaccompanied, solo, by a boy soprano. There was a lit up 3-D star hung up in the middle. I have very fond memories of our Christmas services there. I remember the Boys' choir one year singing "Knocking on the window" (standing in the rain, knocking on the window, knocking on the window in the pouring rain).

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

26 May 2017

Liz Sowten, Where you by any chance related to Steve and Ernie Sowten who lived in Radelandstrasse, Spandau?

Tony Higgin (68-70)

28 May 2017

Does anyone know the whereabouts of Vincent Guilford Fletcher ? Same year and house as me. Thank you

Chris Hilton (C66-72)

28 May 2017

Would anyone in contact with Ann Sutton please contact me.

Cathry Towers (C71-74).

29 May 2017

Hi would love to hear from my dorm buddies, Hilsborough hse with my twin sister Jackie ,1976 until Dads posting in 1978 we were missing our little dorm family badly when we left it was strange going back to normal family home life,where are you Jane Pykett, Linda Hughes, Carol Wilson, Liz Dood ?? we had such fun although hated it there!! Tryranic house head mistress & awful matron !! But as us service kids do we made the best of it. Only good thing was the food and all the naughtyness we did!

Limda Cailes (H76-78)

29 May 2017

Hi Chris Hilton. I remember you and Vince Fletcher. I have only see one post from Vince on this site. See 9 Nov 2007. I have heard nothing else from anyone of our year at Windsor bar Mick Wood (Woody) who also in your dorm. He was my best man in 1976. Unfortunately he was killed in a motorcycle accident in Aug 2003. Sorry about that news and I hope make contact with Vince. Regards

Trevor Cardy (C172) (C68-71)

 
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