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01 June 2017

Hi Ffoeg, Hope all is well in your dorm.

When I was at WGS it was said that the cellars in the boarding blocks were gas chambers during the war!!!!!!!!!
What were they really used for before Windsor claimed them???????

Hi all, if anyone else wants to offer some amusing suggestions it may be interesting...........

I was caught skiving there and said I was ill - bad idea as it was before a visiting weekend - I was promptly sent to sickbay and detained with the threat that I would have to remain there and not allowed home!!! Thank DOG they didn't do it!*!*!

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

05 June 2017

The cellars at the WGS were used for us boys to meet our girl in the dead of night.

Peter Robertson (B63-65)

05 June 2017

Hi Peter,

Some girls have all the luck - my fella of the time never managed to get his body to the cellar - maybe he did but met someone else?!?!?

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

05 June 2017

Wow, Cant believe i have only just found this site.Mr Hern Sir,great to see how active you are .I was in H as a local day boy so no surprise most of my friends were local. Allan chawner ,Tony Dunn,Marie Dunn,Nina Ball,Marcus Ball Sandra Eads, Dale Eads(last name spelling ?)Allan Smith,Linda Smith the Leahy clan. The older group.Michell Worell,Tim Sarney-Erika Ball and others. My time at WBS was magic. oh must mention all the Americans with whom we had close contacts.I really enjoyed sports for the house and school,football,rugby,xcountry athletics,swimming. I had the best of both worlds, a normal home life and the facilities of a boardinng school.I had no experience of bullying,ofcourse there was the daybug thing and a bit of rivalry ,Hamm dayboy, Soest/Werl dayboy. Also in school with some of the boarders,but in generall i think much depended on how you mixed in and with all the sports i was doing for Hillsborough i never had a problem. Great memories of the staff Mr Donavon,Pop Farrah,Mr Lake Mr Ball( and his wife since i spent some time in and out of their double flat),Mr Clark(than you for all the sailing,teach it now myself in my spare time)and all the other teachers i knew from living on the PATCH,or from going to the social centre .as for you Mr Hern Sir you never tought me,guess i wasnt academic enougth at the time, i say that because later at catering college ( thnks Bert Dunn and Frau fuelling my love of catering ) i found i had a natural skill for working with figures budgets costs etc and turned my B cse from WBS into a A level,but you sir i too remember to and froh from school on that bike with your pipe. I still live in Germany in Munster

Anthony Cummings (H72-77)

06 June 2017

Izzzi - I doubt if the cellars can have been used as gas chambers, they wouldn't have been airtight! As to the barracks themselves, my mother's cousin Hans was stationed at WGS during the war when it was a German barracks - I think that was a bit of a surprise to her, when we were sent there!

In our block (St James and Caernarvon), we had laundry facilities and a room which we used for parties, the "Keller Club", which had cinema seating round the wall and a mural of a sort of French caf? scene. I used to have my birthday party there (I always had my birthday at school). There were certainly cloakrooms (for hanging coats, etc) in the school and dining blocks.

School block also had a careers office in the end room of the cellar - not sure anyone actually used it to find a career! But it came in handy when a mate of mine was caught out of school in the night, she and her fellow abscondees were locked into the careers office while the headmistress decided what to do with them. We talked and waved to them as they peered out of their barred windows! In the end, they just suspended them for a while, as there were no other education options for them other than to come back to WGS.

Sandringham block, once Kensington was absorbed into their numbers, some of their cellar rooms were used for arty things - pottery, photographic dark room.

I have cellars in my current house (built around 1730) - I don't really use them, but my children used to play "Curse of the Mummy's Tomb" down there till they almost set the house alight.

I was a bit shy at school, so never did it myself, but my recollection from what others told me, Peter Robertson, is that it was usually the girls who went at night to visit WBS, as WGS was much harder to get into - boy-eating dogs prowling the grounds at night, for a start ;-)

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

06 June 2017

Yes, the WGS did have boy eating dogs and guards prowling but us cunning lads would go when it was raining.
The reason I had to leave WBS, for visiting WGS when I should of been tucked up asleep!!!!!

Peter Robertson (B63-65)

07 June 2017

Hi Pamela, I never believed the gas chambers story for a minute- I put it in with the hope of stirring some response - and it did - RESULT!!!

I have read the stories about the inter school visitations in the night - and now we have boy eating dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I must have been a very heavy sleeper as I was oblivious to all the fun I was missing - schucks.
Are there any X Windsor boys limping around with a chunk of their leg missing thanks to these marvellous hounds?????

Were they real dogs? Or teachers in disguise? I could name the suspects but better not..............

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

08 July 2017

Just been reading about boy eating guard dogs they must have been sleeping when I visited on a few occasions had to dodge teachers but mainly try not to trip over other lads on their way in/out..

Paul Stannett (E73-75)

11 June 2017

Maybe- that by the time you fellas joined the school the dogs had been disbanded or devoured by the boy visitors. Definitely dogs in my time.

Peter Robertson (B63-65)

12 June 2017

At this time of year, my dog and I walk long distances early in the day. Today, a clear blue sky sought to remind me of an early evening when Schofield HM of Marlborough (1960 'ish) was walking his dog and Rob Holtham, a lovely guy, shouted out 'Oh look Scoffs dog is taking Scoff for a walk' Later Schofield arrived and said 'I've taken my dog for a walk, thank you Hotham'. It was about the only time this Housemaster showed even the vaguest humour. It was always rumoured he'd been a sniper in WW2 in view of his eye for detail. Now the question that has since bothered me. Why was a house called Marlborough when all the others were actually palaces or residences of the Royals? Anyone who provides an acceptable answer can join me for lunch at The Oxford Arms Kirlington Oxfodrdshire, treats on me!
I've also been looking back at a time when we could give email addresses on this site such we could talk 1-2-1 It is possible today, we just need to give an OK or buy/ create a directory, any takers?

John Eustace (M59-62)

John, if you want to contact anyone on the site I will pass them your email then it is up to them - some people don't always want to meet everyone they went to school with for obvious reasons. - Bill

12 June 2017

Hi John, I am no historian (was never interested) but doing some research this evening I found the following:

Marlborough House is next to St James Palace, round the corner from Buckingham Palace and backs on to St James Park. It was taken over by the Royals for more than years.

It was used by Prince Albert Edward of Wales and his wife Alexandra Queen Adelaide the widow of William IV from 1831 until her death in 1849.

Apparently it was mainly used for dowagers.

It is now HQ for vestiges of the British Empire and Commonwealth and well worth a visit.

Does this satisfy the definition of a royal residence?

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

12 June 2017

Hi Ffoeg, I am sure you must be able to solve the mystery of the 'boy eating dogs' and what became of them????

Hi Bill, It occurred to me that you put all the work into running this site and I have no idea who you are - shocking or what???

Were you a teacher? Which house were you? What period? Are there others out there as glackit as me?

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

12 June 2017

Everything gone doggy!!!!!!!

Peter Robertson (B63-65)

12 June 2017

I think 'everything going doggy' is good because it has provided some conversation / interaction about life at Windsor - more of which is required.......

What would you like to discuss / have a laugh about????

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

13 June 2017

More questions! I hope I can answer some of them.

It says in the WGS school song - "and Marlborough for the Commonwealth spreads concord wider yet".

The dogs were owned by our school caretaker, Ron Wheatland. He was an ex-soldier, had served with my father, I think with the tank transporter unit which had previously been in M?nster but was later stationed next door to WGS. The dogs were Alsatians. Ron also set up aviaries with budgerigars, and was possibly also behind the dovecot and the white fantail doves we had.

If I remember correctly - Bill is contemporary with me, although I didn't know him at the time (I was very shy with boys! More than made up for that since). Was it Caernarvon house, Bill? (But sh! Maybe you don't want anyone to know!)

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

13 June 2017

Like the picture Bill especially, unless I'm mistaken, the C/D on the front of the sweatshirt. Could it be that I'm not the only one to put 'sums' on the site?

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

Welcome back Geoff - if that means "Pi" then yes....

Your Webmaster

I was a student at WBS 1962 - 65 in Caernarvon House. Most of my career was spent as a Transmission/Datacomms Engineer but now retired and spending most of my time making music with two bands and riding an old (1959) 650cc Ariel Huntmaster motorcycle.

Bill C

13 June 2017

Great picture Bill. With that hat you should be playing in Oasis.
Not the Bill I remember, but you would most likely walk past me these days, too - 'cos I ate all the pies. :D

Malcolm Graham (E60-65)

Thanks - when did we meet at WBS then - my memory is soooo hazy....

13 June 2017

Good evening Webmaster, Thank you for letting me (and anybody else who was in the dark)know how you fit in to the Windsor story. When you say 'making music' does that mean writing or playing? What type of music do you play? Do you sing? X

Hello Malcolm, Hope all is gid wi you and the wife.

Which are the best pies? Nae the haggis wans surely??? Pure mingin

Did we get pies at Windsor? I can't remember any.....

I recall people eating chocolate cornflake cakes, ice cream and hot custard from the same bowl! The custard melted the ice cream and choccy - that was pure mingin anaw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And then there was the rice pudding with deid fleas (dried raisins)in it that most comrades didn't like due to the fleas - I loved it and ate all the portions nobody wanted - magic.

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

I am Rhythm Guitar & Vocals in Blackthorn Buskers (Country Meets Folk Trio) and Village Folk (6 piece folk band)

14 June 2017

Success - I WAS the grey man then. :)

In your years - 3A, 4B, 5B - I left at the end of the summer term 1965.

Malcolm Graham (E60-65)

14 June 2017

Well, this long haired standard Dachshund is pleased his walk is causing conversation, even to the point of the slumbering Hern arriving back on site. Happy with the answer on Marlborough thank you iZZZi, lunch is on me. Our esteemed webmaster can no doubt send my email address. Humour called for? Quite agree. Not sure Cooper & O'Neill going over the wall at WBS one night qualifies but as a member of the dorm it sure amused me. Roll call the next day was fun!Whereas life under Schofield was not, tempered happily by the likes of Robertson, Hern and Worthy being duty masters with a sense of humour. My photograph circa 1962 shows a Welshman sitting between Robertson and Schofield but I can't put a name to him (Wynn Jones?)Thinking about it, Schofield's dog wasn't much bigger than its owner (No ' here Mr Hern?)

John Eustace (M59-62)

14 Jun 2017

Is it my iPad or is my yesterday's post and the Webmaster's reply 'snarled' up with the Webmaster's CV? Yes C/D is Pi Bill but why is it on your sweatshirt? Wasn't showing off with the C/D bit it's just that I was too thick to find a Greek Pi on the iPad. You must have gone through the boring lesson at WBS of measuring the circumferences and diameters of lots of circular things and then 'discovering' (the in-word in Maths education at the time) that C/D always gave a value of about 3. Excitement really knew no bounds in the Maths block as I'm sure Christine agrees

Forgot to answer John's question - age strikes again. The Welshman must be Haydn Jones who later became Housemaster of Hillsborough when Tony Flower left. Lots of appreciative references to him on this site
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Geoff Hern (M60-80)

As usually is the case there is no mystery about the Pi logo on my T-Shirt just that it was the one I liked the look of. Thanks for reporting the 'snarl' up - it only affected iPads - seems they can't cope with the frame I used. BillC

15 June 2017

Mr Hern - what an earth do you mean abut i Pads,circumferences,diameters? I have no idea and no interest.

Been in touch with Tony Parslow - not Marlborough but Hillsborough.

Christine Willmott (M77-80)

16 June 2017

Christine I just wanted you to agree with my statement 'excitement knew no bounds in the Maths block' not all the stuff about iPads, circumferences etc. But of course, as usual, you have to upset an old man and reduce further the size of his already very small ego. If you are looking for a good book to read try to get a copy of 'A History of Pi' by Petr Beckmann. It's available on Ebay. I wonder how you'll respond to that suggestion? Regards to the 'lads'.

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

 

17 June 2017

Webmaster Bill Thank you for sharing your music / band info - you must be pretty good - did you learn to play at WBS?
I have often thought it would be good if we heard more from you - especially as you 'keep the show on the road' to enable us regulars, and pop-ins to rabbit..........

Hi Pamela Thank you for solving the mystery of the boy eating hound - unfortunately it was a bit of an anti climax - but only because I wanted to hear where the bodies were buried and whose they were..........

Hi John Thank you for the offer of lunch for solving the Marlborough mystery but I don't know when (if ever) I'll be ne3ar Oxfordshire and it's not a hop round the corner from the land of the Kelpies and unique wheel...........
Should I be in Oxfordshire during my life time I will come looking for you to claim 3 courses with Champagne...........

Seriously, when I did my HR degree I signed up to 'life long learning' and am committed to it - love researching random facts as it is good for quizzing and crosswords - I get DT's if I don't do at least one crossword a day. Keep the dementia at bay.

I gave up the fags 9 weeks ago - a habit I started at WGS - and am turning into an elephant.
Can anybody offer safe cycling tips please? We don't have the luxury of the cycle paths provided in Germany
As we never had bikes at Windsor I couldn't practice the skills learnt on the National Cycling Proficiency course / test which I did P7 Dundee - nowadays I would be claiming 'violation of my human rights' - but that would apply to squillions of things at Windsor

IzzzzI Forbes (E72-75)

18 June 2017

Izzzi - I will think of you as we drive near the unique wheel and the Kelpies at the end of next week - we are driving off to Scotland for a week to stay with relatives, and will be coming back from Argyll via your neck of the woods!

The life-long learning is a wonderful thing. When I gave up my original university course (entered after leaving WGS) in order to go and train at RADA, my university tutor suggested I might at some stage complete my conventional uni course with the newly-founded Open University. It was decades later when I actually did (a completely different subject!) with the OU and got my degree. In retirement, I continue to learn and to research - a lot of that is family history, and the social history associated with that - miners in Midlothian, land clearances in the Highlands. Mind you, I was lucky in having one or two inspirational teachers at WGS, in particular my art teacher, Barry Cummings, sadly no longer with us, who was open to new ideas and thinking, and whose art lessons were often enlightening.

I gave up smoking over 35 years ago - I found the best thing was to create new routines for times when I used to smoke a fag. Good luck, keep with it! As to cycling, I have a cycling helmet when I do manage to get out on my bike on the country roads - I also invested in a mirror, to help see what's coming up behind, but in the end you need to alert, other road users are often inconsiderate. Although we didn't have bikes at WGS, we did have an "activity" where we could learn how to change a tyre on a car and how best to wash a car. Mind you, that might have been to get that teacher's car washed once a week!

Thinking back to this time of year at WGS, doing O and A levels, once the exams finished mid to late June, the rest of the term was a bit like a holiday - no more proper lessons, if the sun shone, it was off to the open air theatre for a bit of sun bathing, or play a bit of tennis

Pamela Ross (StJ63-68)

18 June 2017

57 years later! I was delighted to be put in touch with Peter Leppard through these notes and happy happenstance (A horrible American expression really)has us both in North Norfolk early this coming week, variously in Holt and hostelries, if others are about, most welcome. Our meeting will be the 1st since 1962 (I know the maths don't add up, thank you!)
One topic of our telecom was, of course, the Venerable G Hern, and my calculation of age thereof. Now I've had a 2nd 21st and a 3rd 21st such I tentatively ask the question are we close to a 4th 20th for Sir, or do we have to wait for a 4th 21st, for you. Something I for one don't anticipate personally, but this strikes me as a pretty good excuse for a party. We should be told!
As for the Lady IzzzzI can I suggest a static bike with a screen in front showing The Revenant time and again, that might help!

John Eustace (M59-62)

18 June 2017

Mr Hern A history of PI? Sounds really exciting!! May be I could read that when I go to Germany on 01 July.
As for the lads - eldest still in Manchester doing his Masters but in Poland at the moment on a break!!! Youngest will graduate end of July from London, then looking to do a post grad in Canada - who will be funding that??
My birthday on 25/06 - my husband said would you like to go go to Marlow for the weekend - I thought how nice until I found out there is a triathlon but never mind I can sit by the river and a have a cream tea!! He has raised £800 for Cancer Relief so all worthwhile.

Christine Willmott (M77-80)

18 June 2017

Christine I spite of what you might think. Petr Beckmann's book is a great read. Started reading it for a third time whilst waiting for my car to be MOT'd last Thursday. Really good chapter on Euler (I may have mentioned him before!!!). Don't take it to Germany though as you'll be so absorbed in it that you'll miss all the scenery etc. I have been wondering when you would be in the Black Forest. Have a great time with plenty of walking and don't forget to take the Triathlon lad down the autobahn to Basel so that he can pay homage to the great man. Marlow sounds nice but avoid the The Fat Duck unless you want, and can afford, to pay Blumenthal prices. My neck of the woods - born and lived in Windsor for 24 years until I came to WBS in 1960.
John - Izzzi also asked how old I am so to put your mind at rest it is a power of three, at least until the end of October when it will have just two prime factors. Regards to Peter Leppard, another from my greenhorn days in Marlborough. You'll have lots to talk about and might get the arithmetic correct with some effort.
Cycling Sebrof? Sadly I had to give it up in 2012 but Pamela is right to warn you. Excellent exercise but watch out for those car drivers. For some, especially on country roads, cyclists don't exist.

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

18 June 2017

Well, G Hern, as one grandchild remarked to me recently, 'you're old'! but eh, thank you for being so kind with a clue in the first paragraph. In fact, my German Badger dog had already barked out Woof Woof, when I asked him to do the sum to the power of 3. So reality is between an ..th and a .x's 21st. Birthday Celebration but we should seriously count numbers for a Marlborough party in October. Not everyone is so shy and retiring as you pretend. Shall we galvanise for such an event. It could be held at Stamford Bridge, great hospitality packages...

John Eustace (M59-62)

22 June 2017

Don't know when you are leaving for Marlow but have a great birthday Christine and enjoy your cream tea by the Thames. Hope the triathlon 'lad' makes a lot of money for charity.
How's the cycling going Sebrof?
Glad the hint in the first paragraph helped you John.

Geoff Hern (M60-80)

22 June 2017

hi guys.like every boy in sandringham house all wanted to play the guitar,myself included,when the beatles etc come out.only a few boys could afford to buy records,so we listen,learnd and played.one of the of the records played stuck in my mind,i only only heard the tune once.i finally found it on ITunes after searching for it,(1962-2017).its called "night of the vampires" by The Moontrekkers.practically 55 years ago.happy times.regards to all

George Coughtrey (S61-64)

23 June 2017

The talk of nocturnal visits between schools reminds me of a story my father told. We lived in Hamm from 70-72 (I attended Hamm Primary at the back of WGS) and my father was in the PSA. He was contacted late one evening by the headmistress of WGS as a large hole had been discovered in the fence and she was concerned about unwanted visitors. She was clearly unhappy that a team of fence menders would not be dispatched that night and my father eventually offered to contact the army to see if they could send a couple of machine gunners to repel invaders. Apparently she was not amused. :)

Michael Cutts (M77-79)

23 June 2017

George Coughtry - I just remember that track by The Moon Treckers.
...and I've found, on t'web that the BBC banned that track in November 1961 as "being unsuitable for those of a nervous disposition"!
S'pose that didn't apply to us at WBS....

BTW I only discovered recently that "Orange Blossom Special" by The Spotniks was speeded up when recorded. No wonder my fingers couldn't get round that one!

Malcolm Graham (E60-65)

24 June 2017

I would like to hear from any one from Caernarvon house in the years 59 to 65

John G Weston (C59-65)

25 June 2017

Hi Malcolm Graham.youre right about some of us being nutty.i started with the shadows,then the best band ever,the beatles,followed by Johnny Winter.then metallica come on the horizon.also a band called Gamma Ray.elo were good too.at this time im listening to testament,pain,nightwish,finntroll,and similar other bands.i don't drink,& packed in smoking 37 years ago.my mrs isn't keen at all on metal music.regards George

George Coughtrey (S61-64)

25 June 2017

Talking of music....I was always a big fan of the Beatles - post WBS. Whilst at school, I loved the Spencer Davis Group. A few years ago, I was fortunate enough to go to one of their concerts and I met him after the show. I was able to tell him how we played "Keep on Running", whilst in the school group "Bash St".
Now I am into ABBA and I travel around the country following the ABBA Tribute Band - "Bjorn Again". Up to 140 shows and counting!

Dave Naylor (H64-67)

26 June 2017

Not much from my era recently but good to see another name from Caernarvon House around my time between 1959 and 1961, so Hello John Weston. Sorry to say your name does not ring a bell John. I was there during the period Roy Edmeades was Housemaster. Not many from my period there have posted and to give you an idea of my thoughts and experience during that time there you could have a look at my postings on 24.10.16 , 4.2.17 and 13.2.17 to save me repeating myself. My thoughts and experiences should be a memory jogger, but yours may have been better times and bring back more memories I could relate to. Regards to all,

Dave Gray (C59 - 61)

26 June 2017

Mr Hern, Marlow was lovely - would not mind living there if you have a lot of money. The houses fabulous!! Nigel the triathlon man did ok - 18 of his members took part - at 57 he came 18th but did it in 3hrs 17 mins - 10 mins slower than before. Water heat was ok in the Thames but said it was not cold. The bridge over the Thames was really nice!!

Has raised £800 so all for a good cause

Pub lunch - 3 pints of cider for him - bath and early night!! Back to Tilbury today and then Germany Saturday!! Christine

Christine Willmott (M77-80)

26 June 2017

I would like to get in touch with Pat Obyrne <Elliott> and
Bob Mansfield and Doug McCue

John G Weston (C59-65)

29 June 2017

I remember Bob Mansfield.Iknow John Weston from primary and WBS.Hello Cowboy,always larger than life to get on to any horse.

Alan Pembroke (M62-65)

29 June 2017

I wonder if Peter Buckley and Michael Barnacoat are still around?I have just unearthed a photograph taken at the Christmas Party in December 1953 which clearly shows the three of us,in an audience with others, watching some sort of sketch or performance

Geoff. McPate (S53-57)

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